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		<title>By: maymaym's status on Wednesday, 01-Jul-09 05:42:25 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>maymaym's status on Wednesday, 01-Jul-09 05:42:25 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meitar</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-129104</link>
		<dc:creator>Meitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ScienceMan. I&#039;m not entirely certain what you&#039;re set up is, and I should caveat that I&#039;ve never used Mac OS X Server web serving over the public Internet (so I&#039;ve therefore never used HTTPS with Apple&#039;s Teams Server/WikiServer since it&#039;s all been intranet stuff), but if all you&#039;re trying to accomplish is a force-redirect from the &lt;code&gt;http:&lt;/code&gt; scheme to the &lt;code&gt;https:&lt;/code&gt; scheme, you can try this:

&lt;pre&gt;
&lt;IfModule mod_rewrite.c&gt;
    RewriteEngine On
    RewriteCond %{HTTPS} ^off$
    RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/groups
    RewriteRule ^/groups(.*)$ https://&lt;var&gt;my-server-address.com&lt;/var&gt;/groups$1 [R=301,L]
&lt;/IfModule&gt;
&lt;/pre&gt;

As usual, note that I haven&#039;t tested this or anything, but I believe this should be what you want. Naturally, you&#039;ll have to put this in the appropriate configuration file for your set up. See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritecond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Apache mod_rewrite manual page&lt;/a&gt;, as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/wiki-server&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apple&#039;s WikiServer discussion list&lt;/a&gt; for more help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ScienceMan. I&#8217;m not entirely certain what you&#8217;re set up is, and I should caveat that I&#8217;ve never used Mac <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X Server web serving over the public Internet (so I&#8217;ve therefore never used <acronym title="HyperText Transfer Protocol Secured; HTTP over SSL">HTTPS</acronym> with Apple&#8217;s Teams Server/WikiServer since it&#8217;s all been intranet stuff), but if all you&#8217;re trying to accomplish is a force-redirect from the <code>http:</code> scheme to the <code>https:</code> scheme, you can try this:</p>
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&lt;IfModule mod_rewrite.c&gt;
    RewriteEngine On
    RewriteCond %{<acronym title="HyperText Transfer Protocol Secured; HTTP over SSL">HTTPS</acronym>} ^off$
    RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/groups
    RewriteRule ^/groups(.*)$ https://<var>my-server-address.com</var>/groups$1 [R=301,L]
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<p>As usual, note that I haven&#8217;t tested this or anything, but I believe this should be what you want. Naturally, you&#8217;ll have to put this in the appropriate configuration file for your set up. See also <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritecond" rel="nofollow">the Apache mod_rewrite manual page</a>, as well as <a href="http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/wiki-server" rel="nofollow">Apple&#8217;s WikiServer discussion list</a> for more help.</p>
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		<title>By: ScienceMan</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-129057</link>
		<dc:creator>ScienceMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to ensure that users enter their username and password entries only via the secured side of our web server (https: on port 443).  I noticed that to enable weblogs and wikis on the port 443 site, one also has to select the &quot;wiki and blogs&quot; services for groups under the &quot;Web Services&quot; tab in the &quot;Sites&quot; portion of the Web part of ServerAdmin.  This has the unfortunate side effect that a mangled version of the &quot;groups&quot; page shows up if you navigate to the http://(site)/groups url instead of the https one.

Is there a redirect rule we can set up so that the only way to get to the groups or user blog pages is through the https site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to ensure that users enter their username and password entries only via the secured side of our web server (https: on port 443).  I noticed that to enable weblogs and wikis on the port 443 site, one also has to select the &#8220;wiki and blogs&#8221; services for groups under the &#8220;Web Services&#8221; tab in the &#8220;Sites&#8221; portion of the Web part of ServerAdmin.  This has the unfortunate side effect that a mangled version of the &#8220;groups&#8221; page shows up if you navigate to the <a href="http://(site)/groups" rel="nofollow">http://(site)/groups</a> url instead of the https one.</p>
<p>Is there a redirect rule we can set up so that the only way to get to the groups or user blog pages is through the https site?</p>
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		<title>By: Meitar</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-116061</link>
		<dc:creator>Meitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didier,

I discovered recently that in order for the Workgroup Manager application to allow you to select a web site in the &quot;Enable the following services for this group on&quot; drop down menu, you have to create your groups in an LDAP-exported directory. That is to say your server needs to be either an Open Directory Master or an Open Directory Replica or else you&#039;ll never be given an option other than &quot;(None)&quot; in that drop down.

This seems silly to me as I don&#039;t understand why that should be the case, but it clearly is.

Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didier,</p>
<p>I discovered recently that in order for the Workgroup Manager application to allow you to select a web site in the &#8220;Enable the following services for this group on&#8221; drop down menu, you have to create your groups in an <acronym title="Lightweight Directory Access Protocol">LDAP</acronym>-exported directory. That is to say your server needs to be either an Open Directory Master or an Open Directory Replica or else you&#8217;ll never be given an option other than &#8220;(None)&#8221; in that drop down.</p>
<p>This seems silly to me as I don&#8217;t understand why that should be the case, but it clearly is.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Meitar</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114903</link>
		<dc:creator>Meitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamish, the &lt;code&gt;www&lt;/code&gt; part of URLs is generally considered redundant and useless. HTTP already assumes &quot;www&quot; so why should you have to restate it? See &lt;a href=&quot;//no-www.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No-WWW!&lt;/a&gt; for details.

If you still want to get the &quot;www&quot; hostname to respond to web queries you need to set up name resolution (probably DNS) as well as a proper &lt;a href=&quot;//httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apache VirtualHost&lt;/a&gt;. Both of these tasks can be accomplished within the Server Admin application. Check Apple&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;//apple.com/server/macosx/resources/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mac OS X Server Documentation&lt;/a&gt; for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamish, the <code>www</code> part of URLs is generally considered redundant and useless. <acronym title="HyperText Transfer Protocol">HTTP</acronym> already assumes &#8220;www&#8221; so why should you have to restate it? See <a href="//no-www.org/" rel="nofollow">No-WWW!</a> for details.</p>
<p>If you still want to get the &#8220;www&#8221; hostname to respond to web queries you need to set up name resolution (probably <acronym title="Domain Name System or Domain Name Server">DNS</acronym>) as well as a proper <a href="//httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/" rel="nofollow">Apache VirtualHost</a>. Both of these tasks can be accomplished within the Server Admin application. Check Apple&#8217;s <a href="//apple.com/server/macosx/resources/" rel="nofollow">Mac <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X Server Documentation</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamish</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114896</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its very cool - but I can&#039;t get the www. prefix to work.

I have to give the url as http://blair.com.au and not http://www.blair.com.au

Any idea how I can get the www alias to work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very cool &#8211; but I can&#8217;t get the www. prefix to work.</p>
<p>I have to give the url as <a href="http://blair.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://blair.com.au</a> and not <a href="http://www.blair.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.blair.com.au</a></p>
<p>Any idea how I can get the www alias to work?</p>
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		<title>By: Didier</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114888</link>
		<dc:creator>Didier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, I did save it. Well in fact, I did click save but the admin didn&#039;t keep the info supposed to be saved !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, I did save it. Well in fact, I did click save but the admin didn&#8217;t keep the info supposed to be saved !</p>
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		<title>By: Meitar</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114887</link>
		<dc:creator>Meitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didier,

&lt;blockquote&gt;In our case, the wiki and blog activation doesn’t work in the Services and Groups panel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve not encountered an issue with a setting &quot;not sticking.&quot; Are you sure you&#039;ve hit &quot;Save&quot; at the bottom of the window? Apple&#039;s Server Admin and Workgroup Manager are notorious for not applying saves like the rest of the GUI tools.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Going in the workgroup manager the sites with the wikis allowed doesn’t appaers in the enable the following services …&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have to ensure that both the Web Service in Server Admin and the appropriate groups in Workgroup Manager have the wiki &quot;turned on.&quot; You can get a step-by-step guide to doing this (which first requires setting up your Mac OS X Server a regular web server) in the Web Technologies Administration manual I linked in my post.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didier,</p>
<blockquote><p>In our case, the wiki and blog activation doesn’t work in the Services and Groups panel.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve not encountered an issue with a setting &#8220;not sticking.&#8221; Are you sure you&#8217;ve hit &#8220;Save&#8221; at the bottom of the window? Apple&#8217;s Server Admin and Workgroup Manager are notorious for not applying saves like the rest of the <acronym title="Graphical User Interface">GUI</acronym> tools.</p>
<blockquote><p>Going in the workgroup manager the sites with the wikis allowed doesn’t appaers in the enable the following services …</p></blockquote>
<p>You have to ensure that both the Web Service in Server Admin and the appropriate groups in Workgroup Manager have the wiki &#8220;turned on.&#8221; You can get a step-by-step guide to doing this (which first requires setting up your Mac <acronym title="Operating System">OS</acronym> X Server a regular web server) in the Web Technologies Administration manual I linked in my post.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Didier</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114886</link>
		<dc:creator>Didier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great infos.

It doesn&#039;t seem that Apple is promoting Leopard server quite heavily or is so in the US ?

Just a technical question ...

In our case, the wiki and blog activation doesn&#039;t work in the Services and Groups panel. We are able to check it there but if you try to set a group there it doesn&#039;t stay (after a while it clears up).
Going in the workgroup manager the sites with the wikis allowed doesn&#039;t appaers in the enable the following services ...

Didi you allready came accross something similar ?

Thanks for the (possible) answer !

Didier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great infos.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem that Apple is promoting Leopard server quite heavily or is so in the US ?</p>
<p>Just a technical question &#8230;</p>
<p>In our case, the wiki and blog activation doesn&#8217;t work in the Services and Groups panel. We are able to check it there but if you try to set a group there it doesn&#8217;t stay (after a while it clears up).<br />
Going in the workgroup manager the sites with the wikis allowed doesn&#8217;t appaers in the enable the following services &#8230;</p>
<p>Didi you allready came accross something similar ?</p>
<p>Thanks for the (possible) answer !</p>
<p>Didier</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/05/a-web-developers-introduction-to-the-apple-wikiserver-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-114876</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice! Thanks!</p>
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